Carlei wrote a very good article on player experience in Hattrick. Unfortunately however, the article went off-line, only to be recoverd by the wayback machine.
Therefore I’m trying to save it for getting lost forever on my site. Read it and learn everything about how players get their experience and how to determine the sublevel of a player’s experience below.
Experience improves player abilities during a match, but how players gain experience is not easy to figure out.
Experience for a match
Friendly 0,1 point
International friendly 0,2 point
League 1 point
Cup 2 point
National (Tournament) 10 point (All players receive points)
National (Friendly) 4? point (All players receive points)
There are still many different opinions to when a player receives experience. I use the method shown below in my investigation and it fits very good.
If a player is updated after the match, he receives exp. points according to that match. He will be updated if he score a goal, receives yellow/red card or if he gets injured (even if he’s not substituted).
Notice, a player does not receive more experience because he score several times or for instance score a goal and get booked in the same match.
If on the other hand, he is not updated, he has a chance of receiving tripple amount of points, and a risk of not getting anything. How big the chance is to get tripple points is unknown, but something around 20 – 40%.
– In cup matches players don’t receive tripple points but only double. That is 4 points if the player don’t need to be updated, but still receives exp.
I have been told that HT do update goals and cards for friendlies too, so the method is also used in these matches.
My own investigation has showned that players needs to get 28 points for them to raise a level.
National Team
Last season I had a player on U20, so finally I found the “formula” for National Tournament matches. About National Friendlies I don’t know anything yet, but hopefully I will, one day 🙂
YP’s
I have received lots of mail about YP’s increasing to wretched experience after only a few matches, so I feel it is safe to conclude that these players can be “born” with some experience, so the first level will go very fast.
Is it possible to see how many points a player has earned?
No it’s not! As with the regular skills, exp. levels has decimals, so it’s not possible to get a precise number, but you can get an indication of the players current exp. level by using the methods mentioned below.
Coaching subjects
With players who has been in your club for at least 16 weeks, and who has at least inadequate experience, there is a very effective method.
Do the following:
– Log in to Hattrick, choose your club and after that “Training”
– Press “change coach”, and after that “Use existing player”
– Find the player you want to investigate and choose him.
– His tactical abilities are not important so just choose one. Now you can see how much it costs to make him into an inadequate coach. Notice, it’s always the price to make the player an inadequate coach you must use, no matter how high his experience might be.
– This price is then matched with the model below and VOILA….now you know how many points your player has.
Prices are in US $
Points | Inadequate | Passable | Solid | Excellent | Formidable | Outstanding | Brillant | Magnificent |
0 | 43800 | 35200 | 29400 | 25200 | 21900 | 19500 | 17400 | 15900 |
1 | 43100 | 34700 | 29000 | 25000 | 21700 | 19300 | 17300 | 15800 |
3 | 42300 | 34200 | 28700 | 24700 | 21500 | 19200 | 17200 | 15700 |
5 | 41600 | 33700 | 28400 | 24500 | 21300 | 19000 | 17100 | 15600 |
7 | 40900 | 33300 | 28000 | 24200 | 21100 | 18900 | 17000 | 15500 |
9 | 40300 | 32800 | 27800 | 24000 | 21000 | 18700 | 16800 | 15400 |
11 | 39600 | 32400 | 27500 | 23700 | 20800 | 18600 | 16700 | 15300 |
13 | 39000 | 32000 | 27200 | 23400 | 20600 | 18500 | 16600 | 15200 |
15 | 38400 | 31600 | 26900 | 23100 | 20400 | 18300 | 16500 | 15100 |
17 | 37800 | 31200 | 26600 | 22900 | 20300 | 18100 | 16400 | 15000 |
19 | 37300 | 30800 | 26300 | 22700 | 20100 | 17900 | 16300 | 14900 |
21 | 36700 | 30400 | 26000 | 22500 | 20000 | 17800 | 16200 | 14800 |
23 | 36200 | 30100 | 25700 | 22300 | 19800 | 17700 | 16100 | 14700 |
25 | 35700 | 29700 | 25500 | 22100 | 19600 | 17600 | 16000 | 14600 |
27 | 35200 | 29400 | 25200 | 21900 | 19500 | 17400 | 15900 | 14500 |
If his price is 40.300 it means he has between 9 og 10,9 exp. points.
Tabels for other levels, will be added when they are completed. There are some problems with the numbers, and I am not sure they are all correct, so if you have anything to add, feel free to contact me on HT mail 🙂
Other players
With all other players there aren’t any precise way, but you can count it yourself with my excel document, which can be downloaded HERE
I’ll try and give a short explanation here:
Min. points: The amount of points you know your players has earned.
Max. point: The maximum amount of points he could have earned. This is if he receives points for every game played, no matter if he needs updating or not.
– If minimum points reaches 28 your player should rise a level for certain.
– Maximum points is a little different. You can use this as an indication of when your player has a chance of rising. He won’t have a chance until it reaches 28.
So far this has shown me that a rise won’t happen before the “minimum points sum” is near 20.
But you could be lucky 😉
Carlei, SIF Bryggen
Hallo Leendert,
Thanks again for the wonderful info regarding Hattrick.
I was wondering if you would know a workaround again for HT Ratings. I have been using this little but very useful and handy prog for as long as I can remember. Also with the manual input. However, with the new setup within Hattrick regarding CHHP products, the manual input doesn’t work anymore (they must have changed something with the xml file).
Any ideas on how to manually enter the player data (and if possible other data) again?
Dank je wel,
Luursje